The Future is Bleak on April 13 (guest: Bill Cameron)

After nearly two months of sanctions, fines, and not being able to find the time, we're back with a brand new podcast and it's a special edition of THE FUTURE IS BLEAK. Join us as Ben talks to Bill Cameron for the first time. What's so special about that? Bleak House is publishing Bill's next book Chasing Smoke this fall and the two men have never spoken a word to one another.

Will they be able to communicate? Will they get along? Tune in to find out.

BUMPER MUSIC: "Hold Up" by Marisa Kasriel